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Silberzwiebeln = Perlzwiebel ?

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BubikolRamios1
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Silberzwiebeln = Perlzwiebel ?

Beitrag von BubikolRamios1 » 28.12.2019, 17:59

is this same thing ?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 73-75).jpg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perlzwiebel

SO, figured, this is Allium ampeloprasum var. sectivum = Allium porrum var. sectivum ? Same thing ?

Not same as Allium ascalonicum I think.

Is there a comercial name for it, looking local goggle for 'Allium, sectivum' and no hits.
One would think buying seeds is possible.

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Re: Silberzwiebeln = Perlzwiebel ?

Beitrag von Anagallis » 28.12.2019, 18:40

"Perlzwiebel" is Allium ampeloprasum var. sectivum = Allium porrum var. sectivum
Several cultivars with small white bulbs seem to be called "Silberzwiebel": Allium cepa var. cepa and Allium cepa var. fistulosum = Allium fistulosum.

All of them are sold as (mixed) pickles. Both, "Perlzwiebeln" (engl. "pearl onions") and "Silberzwiebeln" are commercial names in German. They are sold as seeds or bags of small bulbs. However, the names on the packs may be wrong and it may be difficult to figure out the proper botanical name. In any case, what you get will be cultivars of probably obscure heritage - the results of centuries of cultivation.

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Re: Silberzwiebeln = Perlzwiebel ?

Beitrag von BubikolRamios1 » 28.12.2019, 22:47

So, confusion.

Just a note, check first link from OP.
Says: Silberzwiebeln = Pearl pickling onions
also one can find there: Dieser Benutzer spricht Deutsch als Muttersprache.

check this:
http://agrozoo.net/gallery/Allium-ampel ... .-sectivum
same thing if you ask me, something one can buy in store pickled in vinegar under name "Silber onion"

Allium fistulosum = Winter zwiebel mostly named that way (winter) in other languages.
AFAIK here it is also called, translated: hundred years old onion. You plant it and it stays there for years, AFAIK steams are really ment to be eaten, bulbs- havent checked, if there are some they are invisible (-:

https://www.semenarna.si/Pridih-Azije-v ... na-cebula/
click on image --> Allium fistulosum --> text says bulbs are not developed.

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Re: Silberzwiebeln = Perlzwiebel ?

Beitrag von Anagallis » 28.12.2019, 23:13

BubikolRamios1 hat geschrieben:
28.12.2019, 22:47
So, confusion.

Just a note, check first link from OP.
Says: Silberzwiebeln = Pearl pickling onions
No, is says that both (their bulbs?) are very similar, but different species, and that pearl onions play no role in commerce. See
http://mansfeld.ipk-gatersleben.de/apex ... 0Group,208

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same thing if you ask me, something one can buy in store pickled in vinegar under name "Silber onion"
Maybe, but it's probably not possible to distinguish both just by looking at the bulbs. Since few people would know the difference, pickled onions may be mislabeled.
Allium fistulosum = Winter zwiebel mostly named that way (winter) in other languages.
AFAIK here it is also called, translated: hundred years old onion. You plant it and it stays there for years, AFAIK steams are really ment to be eaten, bulbs- havent checked, if there are some they are invisible (-:
Bags of their bulbs are sold in germany. (-;
https://www.semenarna.si/Pridih-Azije-v ... na-cebula/
click on image --> Allium fistulosum --> text says bulbs are not developed.
The plants on the image are not A. fistulosum. The stems of A. f. are not swollen at the base, according to the Rothmaler.

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Re: Silberzwiebeln = Perlzwiebel ?

Beitrag von BubikolRamios1 » 28.12.2019, 23:51

The plants on the image are not A. fistulosum. The stems of A. f. are not swollen at the base, according to the Rothmaler.
A. fistulosum should look like this:
https://www.premierseedsdirect.com/prod ... istulosum/
according to what I have in garden and is named same as here (Stoletna čebula)
https://www.semenarna.si/Pridih-Azije-v ... na-cebula/
So you are probably right, there are no way stems would be full & white as it looks on last link image.

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