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BubikolRamios1
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Hygrophorus carpíni

Beitrag von BubikolRamios1 » 30.11.2019, 18:07

As I understand it mentions here, the same as at my local description, hump in the middle of cap.
https://www.123pilzsuche.de/daten/detai ... ckling.htm

I see nice humps here:
https://mushroomobserver.org/391229?q=12sdC
Means: that is Hygrophorus carpíni ?


comment on this ?: see how gills are running down the stem:
http://www.gobe.si/Slike/HygrophorusCarpini

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abeja
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Re: Hygrophorus carpíni

Beitrag von abeja » 30.11.2019, 19:49

Hi,
Hygrophorus carpini, lindtneri and unicolor are looking the same and maybe they are the same (synonym) ... or very similar (different opinions).
They all have a two coloured cap, but with orange or brownish colours.
No special smell.
H. carpini with Carpinus, H. lindtneri with Corylus, H. unicolor with Fagus (they say...)

This https://mushroomobserver.org/391229?q=12sdC
shows greyish colours and a lot of needles are laying around.
We do not know anything about the smell.
H. agathosmus has a strong bitter almond smell (marzipan), but maybe there are some close relatives.
Pictures of european H. agathosmus mostly do not show such a two coloured cap and not that hump.
But I found a document, maybe there are more species than formerly known in Europe and American/ Canadian species maybe a little bit different..

https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 018-1445-y

The last of our links matches with other pictures of H. carpini/ lindtneri/ unicolor.
Some pictures show more or less decurrent gills (I don't know if this is so variable ...)
https://www.mycomons.be/index.php?task=fiche&espece=178
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Re: Hygrophorus carpíni

Beitrag von abeja » 30.11.2019, 20:22

In this long long long document about H. agathosmus:

the one with "two colours" (and smell and with conifers) may be named H. suaveolens ... and then:
More recently, H. suaveolens was also observed in several localities in Sweden, always under Pinus sylvestris, very late in the season and often affected by frost. It is seemingly rare but might have been overlooked because of the late-season fruiting and because it is reminiscent of H. agathosmus. Three sequences from a soil environmental study of Picea mariana in Alaska were retrieved from GenBank. These sequences are nested within the H. suaveolens clade with strong support (Fig. 2), suggesting that H. suaveolense or a closely related species occurs in North America. The two genotypes differ by four to five insertion/deletion events throughout the ITS region. No collections were available for morphological comparisons.
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