Campanula x?
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Campanula x?
general appearance like:
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... dc550e6e21
ground laves like this, like 1 cm diameter, but sharp pointed serrated.
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... 51cdd65707
NW Slovenia, Alps.
EDIT: Hmm, see here, bottom right, that is what i have seen:
http://www.destigianni.com/images/Varie ... tosa01.jpg
... ?
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... dc550e6e21
ground laves like this, like 1 cm diameter, but sharp pointed serrated.
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... 51cdd65707
NW Slovenia, Alps.
EDIT: Hmm, see here, bottom right, that is what i have seen:
http://www.destigianni.com/images/Varie ... tosa01.jpg
... ?
Re: Campanula x?
I don't understand which plant you're trying to identify. Are you asking for an identification without an image?
The leaves in the bottom right corner of the second image clearly do not belong to the plant shown in the rest of the image.
The leaves in the bottom right corner of the second image clearly do not belong to the plant shown in the rest of the image.
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Re: Campanula x?
"The leaves in the bottom right corner of the second image clearly do not belong to the plant shown in the rest of the image."
Right, But are from same author for same species.
"identification without an image"
Yes.
So apparently I have seen this: http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... dc550e6e21
plus roundish sharply serrated rosette leaves, which I'm certain there were none in last linked image. But apparently there should be to be C. cespitosa ?
Right, But are from same author for same species.
"identification without an image"
Yes.
So apparently I have seen this: http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... dc550e6e21
plus roundish sharply serrated rosette leaves, which I'm certain there were none in last linked image. But apparently there should be to be C. cespitosa ?
Re: Campanula x?
No, that are not leaves of C. rotundifolia. Maybe C. portenschlagiana.BubikolRamios1 hat geschrieben: ↑05.09.2020, 23:00"The leaves in the bottom right corner of the second image clearly do not belong to the plant shown in the rest of the image."
Right, But are from same author for same species.
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Re: Campanula x?
Likely something like first link in OP (http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... dc550e6e21)
+ sharply serrated round groud leaves = Campanula cespitosa.
I don't know why there are no ground leavas as described, at given link. By my memory, observed = multiple single flower stems in small space, like 10*10 cm, woody at base, probably - sharply serrated rosettes only at non flowering things.
Though, EXKURSIONSFLORA DER ALPEN says ground leaves are there at time of flowering.
+ sharply serrated round groud leaves = Campanula cespitosa.
I don't know why there are no ground leavas as described, at given link. By my memory, observed = multiple single flower stems in small space, like 10*10 cm, woody at base, probably - sharply serrated rosettes only at non flowering things.
Though, EXKURSIONSFLORA DER ALPEN says ground leaves are there at time of flowering.
Re: Campanula x?
It also says that the grould leaves are lanceolate.
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Re: Campanula x?
That are for sure not (looking at google images for lanceolate) at my observation.
Local description for ground leaves for C.cespitosa here says inverted egg like (no idea what is that in english), serrated.
the image they refer to (the ones that are not grass like): www.zaplana.net/eiTemplate.asp?rq=http% ... 87_IMG.JPG
same type of leaves, I think, like on link submited in OP:
http://www.destigianni.com/images/Varie ... tosa01.jpg
Local description for ground leaves for C.cespitosa here says inverted egg like (no idea what is that in english), serrated.
the image they refer to (the ones that are not grass like): www.zaplana.net/eiTemplate.asp?rq=http% ... 87_IMG.JPG
same type of leaves, I think, like on link submited in OP:
http://www.destigianni.com/images/Varie ... tosa01.jpg
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Re: Campanula x?
the actual specimen: http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... 1be3beac65